Free Anti-Virus & Other Safety Software

Discussion in 'General Malware' started by ~BD~, Aug 13, 2008.

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    ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    Every computer connected to the internet is vulnerable to fraud and computer
    vandalism. This leaves our pockets prey to the software protection
    industry's heavy charges to keep us safe. Yet it's possible to get legal,
    professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    free.

    Every computer connected to the internet is vulnerable to fraud and computer
    vandalism. This leaves our pockets prey to the software protection
    industry's heavy charges to keep us safe. Yet it's possible to get legal,
    professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    free.

    Please read here:-
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    Leonard Grey

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Spam

    This troll has already been banned from several groups.
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    Errare humanum est

    ~BD~ wrote:
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    ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    The truth.

    Mr Grey - you know full well that this item is *NOT* SPAM.

    I suspect that you didn't even take the trouble to review the information
    posted.

    Dave

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    > This troll has already been banned from several groups.
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    > Leonard Grey
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    Tom [Pepper] Willett

    Tom [Pepper] Willett Guest

    Re: The truth.

    But, you are a tin-foil hatted troll that has been banned from several
    groups.

    "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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    : Mr Grey - you know full well that this item is *NOT* SPAM.
    :
    : I suspect that you didn't even take the trouble to review the information
    : posted.
    :
    : Dave
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    : "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@not.valid.net> wrote in message
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    : > This troll has already been banned from several groups.
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    : > Leonard Grey
    : > Errare humanum est
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    : > ~BD~ wrote:
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    BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Re: The truth.

    On 13 Aug, 16:55, "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <t...@youreadaisyifyoudo.com>
    wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > But, you are a tin-foil hatted troll that has been banned from several
    > groups.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Perhaps you should confirm here for all to read that I .........
    BoaterDave (AKA ~BD~ ) ........ has been banned from *NO* Microsoft
    groups at all. None!

    I'd appreciate your honesty in this regard, Tom. TIA.

    Dave
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    David H. Lipman

    David H. Lipman Guest

    Re: The truth.

    From: "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com>

    | But, you are a tin-foil hatted troll that has been banned from several
    | groups.

    Y E S !

    However, the original post was not spam.




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    Dan

    Dan Guest

    Sorry, Boater Dave, I don't like the advertisements on this site.

    The following should provide users with better choices of what to view to
    understand web external security and internal safety of 9x and NT operating
    systems.

    For a more detailed explaination of 9x consumer operating systems compared
    to NT operating systems then just research it with Wikipedia. In addition, I
    have read Microsoft eliminated the 9x consumer source code to save money and
    that it has never been leaked over the Internet as the Windows NT source code
    has. Finally, Chris Quirke, MVP rightly argues that Windows 2000, XP and
    Vista all lack an internal maintenance operating system that is Disk
    Operating System for Windows 98 Second Edition.

    This is just my 3 sense <2 cents> for what little worth it may be to someone
    someday somewhere out there over the rainbow.

    Over and Out,
    from Sky and Living in the Clouds of Dreamland<aka Dreamworld shall we say--
    grins>

    A Question we should all be asking is "Will I Ever Escape From The Matrix"

    LOL, Dan W. Computer Gamer signing off

    us-cert.gov







    (note use search box to search for vulnerabilities within software that is
    used for computing environments --- eg. Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows
    Vista, Windows 98 Second Edition, Apple Safari, Mozilla Firefox, Internet
    Explorer 7, etc. --- end note)


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    "~BD~" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Every computer connected to the internet is vulnerable to fraud and computer
    > vandalism. This leaves our pockets prey to the software protection
    > industry's heavy charges to keep us safe. Yet it's possible to get legal,
    > professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    > free.
    >
    > Every computer connected to the internet is vulnerable to fraud and computer
    > vandalism. This leaves our pockets prey to the software protection
    > industry's heavy charges to keep us safe. Yet it's possible to get legal,
    > professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    > free.
    >
    > Please read here:-
    >

    >
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
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    Anteaus

    Anteaus Guest

    The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software is
    sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice, and
    certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
    better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.

    "~BD~" wrote:

    Yet it's possible to get legal, <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    > free.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
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    S. Pidgorny

    S. Pidgorny Guest

    G'day:

    "Anteaus" <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:D5DC6EDE-5EC4-4BA6-A203-05B8F1C3449C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
    > is
    > sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
    > and
    > certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
    > better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    True. It would be good to add links to some credible AV tests, like




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    Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
    -= F1 is the key =-

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    Dan

    Dan Guest

    However, false positives seem to have gone up recently with anti-virus
    products and thus I see the quality of many anti-virus products as going
    down-hill. Where is the accountability that used to be in the anti-virus
    industry or is this just an overall software security trend of products being
    worse because of more false positives?

    "S. Pidgorny <MVP>" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > G'day:
    >
    > "Anteaus" <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:D5DC6EDE-5EC4-4BA6-A203-05B8F1C3449C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >
    > > The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
    > > is
    > > sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
    > > and
    > > certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
    > > better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > True. It would be good to add links to some credible AV tests, like
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
    > -= F1 is the key =-
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  11. "Anteaus" <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:D5DC6EDE-5EC4-4BA6-A203-05B8F1C3449C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
    > is
    > sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
    > and
    > certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
    > better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.
    >
    > "~BD~" wrote:
    >
    > Yet it's possible to get legal,<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    >> free.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Agreed. In fact, the included security suite is probably one of the ones
    that screws up and slows down Windows.

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    Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
    Do not reply with email
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    Dan

    Dan Guest

    True, I hate the craplets and would also go with a clean install of my own
    and a customized machine if and when realistic but I know that cannot be
    realistic for big businesses. I like SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search and
    Destroy for anti-spyware. I like AVG 7.5 for anti-virus. I am still
    undecided about Windows Live One Care but I am using it on a trial basis for
    now. What about everyone else and what are your security and safety measures
    that you use to protect your computers. Thanks in advance for the replies.

    "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Anteaus" <Anteaus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:D5DC6EDE-5EC4-4BA6-A203-05B8F1C3449C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >
    > > The point the OP makes about AV software is a very real one. AV software
    > > is
    > > sold by way of 'push install' onto new computers, not by consumer choice,
    > > and
    > > certainly not by quality ratings. In many cases the free offerings ARE
    > > better in every respect than the expensive, foisted ones.
    > >
    > > "~BD~" wrote:
    > >
    > > Yet it's possible to get legal,<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> professional quality anti-virus and other protective software, absolutely
    > >> free.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Agreed. In fact, the included security suite is probably one of the ones
    > that screws up and slows down Windows.
    >
    > --
    > Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
    > Do not reply with email
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
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    ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:CB944F77-D28C-4AB8-9A1D-C2DBAE0DEB43@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Sorry, Boater Dave, I don't like the advertisements on this site.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <snip>

    I'm sorry about the advertisements, Dan ............ it's a great 'saving
    money' site for those in the UK, and the adverts. are the price 'we' have to
    pay to get really good FREE advice!

    Thanks for the links you posted. FWIW I personally no of no-one who is still
    using Windows 98! <smile!>

    Dave
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    ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    Ooops!

    Sorry - KNOW of no-one!

    BD
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    AlmostBob

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    FromTheRafters

    FromTheRafters Guest

    "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:DB523A42-A8A8-4437-94BC-4F7A5074834E@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > True, I hate the craplets and would also go with a clean install of my own
    > and a customized machine if and when realistic but I know that cannot be
    > realistic for big businesses. I like SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search and
    > Destroy for anti-spyware. I like AVG 7.5 for anti-virus. I am still
    > undecided about Windows Live One Care but I am using it on a trial basis
    > for
    > now. What about everyone else and what are your security and safety
    > measures
    > that you use to protect your computers. Thanks in advance for the
    > replies.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I have two laptops on a wireless LAN, one Vista and one XP.
    Both have the Windows firewall enabled - plus when I'm behind
    the wireless access point/router I have that, which is the best type
    of firewall. The firewall applications I feel are a good thing to have
    just in case I use someone elses access point for my connection.

    On Vista I have Avast! anti-virus (I let the McAfee free trial expire).
    On XP I have Norton, and when it expires I will install AntiVir as
    the anti-virus. Both of those are the free versions, but I am not a
    high risk user - so they'll do just fine.

    I use anti-otherware when it pleases me, and the "Defender" that
    my Vista OS came with is always enabled. I also make use of the
    malicious software removal tool through Windows Update.

    I use harddrive imaging software, and full and incremental backup
    as backup plans, and preinstallation environment disks for lack
    of good ol' DOS as a maintenance OS.

    One good thing about anti-everything suites preinstalled on a new
    OS is that you can't experience any slow-down. Although you can
    experience a significant speed-up if you remove them <G>.
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    Joan Archer

    Joan Archer Guest

    One good thing about my new Vista machine is that it didn't come with a load
    of crap installed. It just had the OS and a trial version of Live OneCare
    that I removed.
    On that machine I have NOD32 v3 anti-virus the built in firewall and Windows
    Defender, on my XP machine I have the free version of Avast with the built
    in firewall and Windows Defender and the WinME machine has the free AVG
    anti-virus ZoneAlarm free firewall. They all have SpywareBlaster and
    SuperAntiSpyware installed and are all behind a NAT router.

    --
    Joan Archer



    "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
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    > snip>
    > One good thing about anti-everything suites preinstalled on a new
    > OS is that you can't experience any slow-down. Although you can
    > experience a significant speed-up if you remove them <G>.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
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    Kayman

    Kayman Guest

    On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:06:02 -0700, Dan wrote:
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    > True, I hate the craplets and would also go with a clean install of my own
    > and a customized machine if and when realistic but I know that cannot be
    > realistic for big businesses. I like SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search and
    > Destroy for anti-spyware.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You could add SAS to your arsenal of A-S apps.:
    SuperAntispyware - Free

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I like AVG 7.5 for anti-virus. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    AVG lost its lustre. Good alternatives are:
    Avira AntiVirĀ® Personal - FREE Antivirus

    (The free version won't scan your emails.)
    You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'

    or
    Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
    It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
    Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
    GMER technology.

    (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
    Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)

    Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I am still undecided about Windows Live One Care but I am using
    > it on a trial basis for now.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    IMO, WLOC is not worth having; Good quality AV apps. are freely available
    including the additions it (WLOC) incorporates.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What about everyone else and what are your security and safety measures
    > that you use to protect your computers. Thanks in advance for the replies.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    If you are *really* concerned about security measures you may (as an
    average homeuser) wish to consider this:

    For WinXP the most dependable defenses are:
    1. Do not work as Administrator; For day-to-day work routinely use a
    Limited User Account (LUA).
    2. Secure (Harden) your operating system.
    3. Don't expose services to public networks.
    4. Keep your operating system (and all software on it) updated/patched.
    (Got SP3 yet?).
    5. Reconsider the usage of IE and OE.
    5a.Secure (Harden) Internet Explorer.
    6. Review your installed 3rd party software applications/utilities; Remove
    clutter, *including* 3rd party software personal (so-called) firewall
    application (PFW) - the one which claims:
    "It can stop/control malicious outbound traffic".
    7. If on dial-up Internet connection, activate the build-in firewall and
    configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport protocol for NetBIOS,
    SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,137-139 and 445 (the most
    exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
    7a.If on high-speed Internet connection use a router.
    For the average homeuser it is suggested blocking both TCP and UDP ports
    135 ~ 139 and 445 on the router and implement countermeasures against
    DNSChanger. (Is the Firmware of your router up-to-date?).
    And (just in case) Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) has been superseded by
    Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA).
    8. Routinely practice Safe-Hex.

    Also, ensure you do:
    a. Regularly back-up data/files.
    b. Familiarize yourself with crash recovery tools and re-installing your
    operating system (OS).
    c. Utilize a good-quality real-time anti-virus application and some vital
    system monitoring utilities/applications.
    d. Keep abreast of the latest developments.

    And finally:
    Most computer magazines and/or (computer) specialized websites are biased
    i.e. heavily weighted towards the (advertisement) dollar almighty!
    Therefore:
    a. Be cautious selecting software applications touted in publications
    relying on advertisement revenue.
    b. Do take their test-results of various software with a considerable
    amount of salt!
    c. Which also applies to their 'investigative' in-depth test reports
    related to any software applications.
    d. Investigate claims made by software manufacturer *prior* downloading
    their software; Subscribing to noncommercial-type publications,
    specialized newsgroups and/or fora (to some extend) are a great way to
    find out the 'nitty-gritties' and to consider various options available.

    The least preferred defenses are:
    Myriads of popular anti-whatever applications and staying ignorant.
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    Milo

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    S. Pidgorny

    S. Pidgorny Guest

    G'day:

    "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:uJeNimk$IHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Vista I have Avast! anti-virus (I let the McAfee free trial expire).
    > On XP I have Norton, and when it expires I will install AntiVir as
    > the anti-virus. Both of those are the free versions, but I am not a
    > high risk user - so they'll do just fine.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Even for a high-risk users there is no clear advantage of a paid product
    over freeware. Phone support?

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    Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MS MVP - Security, MCSE
    -= F1 is the key =-

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