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#1 Todd Virlee

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:19 AM

My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive. This
drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this message.
Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?


#2 Mark Adams

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:29 AM



"Todd Virlee" wrote:

> My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive. This
> drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this message.
> Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?


Why not just try formatting it? Use Fat 32.


#3 R. McCarty

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:32 AM

Flash memory based devices tend to fail abruptly. It's not like a
traditional
magnetic platter type drive that may give indications it's beginning to
fail. It
is a good idea to try and read the device in another PC. I frequently see
the
message you indicate but the drive itself is still readable in other
computers.
If it doesn't mount in another computer then it's likely failed on him.

"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
> My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
> This
> drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
> message.
> Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?





#4 Todd Virlee

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:37 AM

I do not want to lose the data. Any other ideas that solve the cause of the
problem?

"Mark Adams" wrote:

>
>
> "Todd Virlee" wrote:
>
> > My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> > formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive. This
> > drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this message.
> > Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?

>
> Why not just try formatting it? Use Fat 32.



#5 Todd Virlee

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:42 AM

If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his machine?

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Flash memory based devices tend to fail abruptly. It's not like a
> traditional
> magnetic platter type drive that may give indications it's beginning to
> fail. It
> is a good idea to try and read the device in another PC. I frequently see
> the
> message you indicate but the drive itself is still readable in other
> computers.
> If it doesn't mount in another computer then it's likely failed on him.
>
> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
> > My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> > formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
> > This
> > drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
> > message.
> > Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?

>
>
>



#6 Pegasus [MVP]

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:49 AM


"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> machine?
>


It means this:
1. Save the data on that other machine.
2. Format the flash drive.
3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.




#7 Mark Adams

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:50 AM



"Todd Virlee" wrote:

> If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his machine?


Copy the data off onto the other computer, remove the drive from that
computer and then check the data that you copied. If the data is good, try
formatting it on the computer where it doesn't work. If the data is corrupted
or unusable, the drive is probably toast.

>
> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>
> > Flash memory based devices tend to fail abruptly. It's not like a
> > traditional
> > magnetic platter type drive that may give indications it's beginning to
> > fail. It
> > is a good idea to try and read the device in another PC. I frequently see
> > the
> > message you indicate but the drive itself is still readable in other
> > computers.
> > If it doesn't mount in another computer then it's likely failed on him.
> >
> > "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> > news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
> > > My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> > > formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
> > > This
> > > drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
> > > message.
> > > Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?

> >
> >
> >



#8 Tim Meddick

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:50 AM

Todd,
I concur with what "R. McCarty" wrote in his reply to your post.
However, I would also like to add, for future reference, that WinImage.exe
(free) can record the entire contents of a 'pen drive' and store it on your
computer as an 'image file', similar to an cd-rom image .ISO file. This can
be used to back-up and restore your data on a USB 'memory stick' or restore
the data to a new 'memory stick' should the 'pen drive' fail altogether.
This is useful if you like to take around your favourite software with
you on a 'pen drive' for instance, diagnostic software for the purposes of
checking clients PC's for errors or viruses.
It takes time to gather a collection together and using this method, you
don't need to be without it for very long, even if you needed to buy an
entirely new drive.


==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
> My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
> This
> drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
> message.
> Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?





#9 Todd Virlee

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:58 AM

I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
computer. How are we to know that his machine is any different? What do I
do if I get him another drive and it fails too?

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

>
> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> > machine?
> >

>
> It means this:
> 1. Save the data on that other machine.
> 2. Format the flash drive.
> 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.
>
>
>



#10 Tim Meddick

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:03 AM

Todd,
you are "pre-empting", just apply some of the suggestions first and
then take on one problem at a time as and IF they arise.

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Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)


"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
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>I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
> computer. How are we to know that his machine is any different? What do
> I
> do if I get him another drive and it fails too?
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
>> news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
>> > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
>> > machine?
>> >

>>
>> It means this:
>> 1. Save the data on that other machine.
>> 2. Format the flash drive.
>> 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.
>>
>>
>>





#11 Mark Adams

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:05 AM



"Todd Virlee" wrote:

> I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
> computer. How are we to know that his machine is any different? What do I
> do if I get him another drive and it fails too?


Get one of those mini USB powered hard drives, the data is stored on a
platter and not on semiconductor.

>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> > news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> > > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> > > machine?
> > >

> >
> > It means this:
> > 1. Save the data on that other machine.
> > 2. Format the flash drive.
> > 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.
> >
> >
> >



#12 Pegasus [MVP]

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:11 AM

We don't know if it is the USB drive or the USB port that's marginal. I have
a USB mouse that works perfectly well on one USB port of my laptop and on
all other machines . On the other USB port it fails to be recognised. Yet
this port works fine with all other USB devices.

In other words, it may be a question of tolerance. Your father's flash disk
may have drifted a little too far to one side and his USB port may be a
little too far on the other side of the specifications. You can observe the
same phenomenon in some marriages where it is referred to as "mutual
incompatibility" . . .


"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:E995B5A9-E673-4C75-BCB2-CFAD10B7D3B6@microsoft.com...
>I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
> computer. How are we to know that his machine is any different? What do
> I
> do if I get him another drive and it fails too?
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
>> news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
>> > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
>> > machine?
>> >

>>
>> It means this:
>> 1. Save the data on that other machine.
>> 2. Format the flash drive.
>> 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.
>>
>>
>>





#13 Todd Virlee

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:27 AM

It is a problem with the drive. It fails on another machine. We'll try the
reformat and then purchase a new drive.

"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

> We don't know if it is the USB drive or the USB port that's marginal. I have
> a USB mouse that works perfectly well on one USB port of my laptop and on
> all other machines . On the other USB port it fails to be recognised. Yet
> this port works fine with all other USB devices.
>
> In other words, it may be a question of tolerance. Your father's flash disk
> may have drifted a little too far to one side and his USB port may be a
> little too far on the other side of the specifications. You can observe the
> same phenomenon in some marriages where it is referred to as "mutual
> incompatibility" . . .
>
>
> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> news:E995B5A9-E673-4C75-BCB2-CFAD10B7D3B6@microsoft.com...
> >I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
> > computer. How are we to know that his machine is any different? What do
> > I
> > do if I get him another drive and it fails too?
> >
> > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> >> news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> >> > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> >> > machine?
> >> >
> >>
> >> It means this:
> >> 1. Save the data on that other machine.
> >> 2. Format the flash drive.
> >> 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>



#14 R. McCarty

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:53 AM

Can't give you a definitive answer. However USB devices can be
affected by power loading of the Root Hub they are served from.
If the device is detected that would generally not mean a power
overload is responsible. USB drives can become "Inconsistent" &
have data problems just like magnetic drives. It's a problem I've
seen time and time again but don't know why they exhibit the issue.
In some cases even though the drive is reported as "Unformatted"
it's data can still be accessed.

Excuse the previous message's ErRATic line breaks. I disregarded
my 'Break' marker.

"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> machine?
>
> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>
>> Flash memory based devices tend to fail abruptly. It's not like a
>> traditional
>> magnetic platter type drive that may give indications it's beginning to
>> fail. It
>> is a good idea to try and read the device in another PC. I frequently see
>> the
>> message you indicate but the drive itself is still readable in other
>> computers.
>> If it doesn't mount in another computer then it's likely failed on him.
>>
>> "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
>> news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
>> > My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is
>> > not
>> > formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
>> > This
>> > drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
>> > message.
>> > Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?

>>
>>
>>





#15 smlunatick

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:20 AM

On May 21, 2:58 pm, Todd Virlee
wrote:
> I have seen other people report that numerous USB drives fail on their
> computer.  How are we to know that his machine is any different?  What do I
> do if I get him another drive and it fails too?
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > "Todd Virlee" wrote in message
> >news:B78C4CC6-8F39-4521-9D1E-B8E97B275C03@microsoft.com...
> > > If it does work in another computer, then what does that mean with his
> > > machine?

>
> > It means this:
> > 1. Save the data on that other machine.
> > 2. Format the flash drive.
> > 3. See if it works reliably. If it doesn't, throw it away.


You must test this "flash" drive on a different PC before stating the
drive has "failed!" USB ports are extremely "finicky" and you must
first see if the drive works elsewhere.


#16 Leythos

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 04:49 PM

You need to format and re-install windows.

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"Todd Virlee" wrote in message
news:2DF01675-24D4-484D-A1F2-5FDDD256F1BA@microsoft.com...
> My father has a Windows XP home machine that is giving him a "drive is not
> formmated" error whenever he tries to access data on his USB pen drive.
> This
> drive was working for 6 months and then just started giving him this
> message.
> Any ideas? Driver? Registry hack?




#17 Leythos

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:49 PM

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The headers from the Usenet posts prove that the message was not posted
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You should avoid following any advice from impersonation based posts.

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#18 Barry Schwarz

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 04:54 PM

On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:49:00 -0700, "Leythos"
wrote:

>You need to format and re-install windows.


For the archives, this is a forged post and the advice is bogus.

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#19 Leythos

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Posted 30 May 2009 - 09:10 PM

No it was real and you are an idiot.

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"Barry Schwarz" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:49:00 -0700, "Leythos"
> wrote:
>
>>You need to format and re-install windows.

>
> For the archives, this is a forged post and the advice is bogus.
>
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